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Do not play with Redstone Imler or Leda Imling.(glitch and glitches)  (Read 679 times)

Offline Psylisa

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I'm not sure how did played you guys with these glitches.
I didn't use Imlers/Imlings when I found the same sorts of delays. You didn't even mention the revive loops with Putrid Imlings and Boulder Imler. It gets even better with Cast On Death spell gems!

As for Glory, I only used it early game when a casting a ton of spells wouldn't trigger casting a bunch more spells/attacks and enemies could be defeated easily. Also, most Life spells weren't for attacking/killing (and the ones that do are usually weak), so I dropped Glory. Using Glory was just a crutch until you can get better spell gems/properties.

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Redstone Imler and Leda Imling.
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Redstone Imler
Trait   : Lead By Example
Your Imlings gain the Attack, Intelligence, Defense, and Speed bonuses from this creature's artifact.
Leda Imling
Trait : Ingenuity
Your Imlers gain the Attack, Intelligence, Defense, and Speed bonuses from this creature's artifact.

I thought their traits are good enough, if 3 Redstone Imler, 3 Leda Imling in a group, they will got 3 artifact stats bonus(each Imler got 3 each Imlings stats from artifact, each Imlings, vice versa), according to traits.

But. In actual game. terrible things are just happened.

They are unbelievably f$#cking strong than I expected. over 5-7 times powerful than I thought.

So I studied why the f**k this situation comes out to me.

After about hour of f#$king my stupid research, I found the reason.

The result is,
Imler or Imling who gains stats from the trait, they spread stats back to all other creatures in a group.


Here are examples.

a) If there are 1 Redstone Imler (with +100ATK artifact), 1 any Imling(not Leda Imling) in a group.
follows the trait, Imling should get +100ATK. right? and it is done. no more bonus.
however. In actual game, with horrible calculation.
=> Redstone Imler get +100ATK too. It got 200ATK totally(include its own artifact).
=> Why? Imling gives +100ATK back to Redstone Imler. how hilarious.
=> Because as I said
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Imler or Imling who gains stats from the trait, they spread stats back to all other creatures in a group.

b) a Redstone Imler with +100ATK artifact, now I call it as A
    a any Imling other than leda, now call it as B
If there are A A B B in a group.
follows the trait, each B(Imlings) should get +200ATK.
How the f$#ing ever, In actual game....
=> after weird buggy calculation. A got 500ATK(include its own 100ATK artifact). B got 400ATK

c) How about this.
    a any creature other than Imler or Imling, now call it as C
A A B B C in a group.
what is going on now?
=> A got 500ATK(include its own 100ATK artifact)
=> B got 400ATK
=> C got 400ATK, too
=> Wtf?
=> Because Imler or Imling who gains stats from the trait, they spread stats back to all other creatures in a group.

d) Finally, The Leda coming.
    a Leda Imling with +100ATK artifact, now call is as D
A A A D D D in a group.
Will you guess the result?
=> EACH A GOT 2000ATK
=> EACH B GOT 2000ATK



IT IS, JUST, STUPIDLY OVERPOWER.
So I decided I don't use that. but....
IN THE FU*KING GAME, THEY COMES OUT ENEMY TOO!!
whoa. I wanna kill myself.



BONUS STAGE 1
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Diamond Imling
Trait : Trove
At the start of battle, your Imlers and Imlings share copies of their Spell Gems with each other. The Spell Gems have randomized properties.

copy gems? cool. with random properties? yeah!
I think it just copy a gem to other Imlers and Imlings. (If Diamond Imling has a gem, and other has nothing.)
but. guess what.
In actual siralim2.........
Amazingly show happens.
they duplicate gems to 16-32 times with god damn random properties.
HOW THE F#@K?
After my second study of siralim2's mystery.
The reason is, This trait works as, copy gems to Imlers and Imlings which are in front gem courier than of a group(orders of creature) and then, In order of front, they gives a copy of gems to Imlers and Imlings which are in back.
Language is so hard, isn't it?(sorry for my English too.)

Here are examples.
if there are Imlers and Imlings group with Diamond Imling.
I call now they as A B C D E F. (It is not important which is a Diamond Imling.)
a) if A hold a Spell gem.
Follow the trait, B C D E F should have just one copy of the gem.
but result is.
=> A  B  C  D  E  F   have
      1  1  2  4  8  16  freaking copy of gems with god damn random properties.
-- Here is a calculation, gradually.
^A  B  C  D  E  F  // [^] means a gem holder
  1                      // ^A has a original gem
      1  1  1   1  1  // ^A copies 1 gem to back(-> direction).
          1  1   1  1  // NOW THE FUCKING WEIRD CALCULATION START. B copies 1 gem to back
              2   2  2  // At this time, C has copy of 2 gems. So C copies 2 gems to back.
                   4  4  // According to D has 4. D copies 4 gems to back.
                       8  // E has 8, E copies 8 to back(in this moment, only F).
  1  1  2  4  8  16  // result of gems. (with ^A's original gem.)
  How amazing.
b) if B hold a spell gem.
=> A  B  C  D  E  F  have
     1  2  3  6  12  24  gems.
-- Here is a calculation, gradually.
 A ^B  C  D  E  F
    1                   // ^B has a original.
 1                      // ^B copies 1 gem to front(<- direction).
    1   1  1  1  1  // A copies 1 gem to back(-> direction).
         2  2  2  2  // ^B copies 2 gems to back. (due to ^B has total 2.)
             3  3  3  // C copies 3 gems to back.
                 6  6  // D copies 6 gems to back.
                     12 // E copies 12 gems to back.
 1  2  3  6  12  24 // result.
c) if C hold a spell gem.
-- calculation
 A  B ^C  D  E  F
         1              // ^C has a original.
 1  1                   // ^C copies 1 gem to front.
     1  1  1  1  1  // A copies 1 to back.
         2  2  2  2  // B copies 2 to back. (due to B has total 2)
             4  4  4  // C copies 4 to back. (due to C has total 4)
                 7  7  // D copies 8 to back.
                     14 // E copies 16 to back.
 1  2  4  7  14 28 // result.
d) and so on........... if F hold a spell gem.
result is, they got 1 2 4 8 16 32 gems with god damn random properties.(F has a original, but whatever.)

AND NOW, WHAT THE HELL WILL HAPPENS?
WITH RANDOM PROPERTIES, IT CAN HAVE 'CAST AT START OF BATTLE'.
IF ALL F*&KING CREATURES HAS 4-5 GEMS, IT BRINGS THE CATASTROPHE, THE REAL PANDEMONIUM, WHATEVER SHITTY SHITS.
WHEN FACE THE ENEMIES, GAME JUST STOPPED, FOR CALCULATION FOR COPY GEMS, AND CALCULATION AGAIN FOR 'CAST AT START OF BATTLE', ABOUT 1-5 MINUTES HOW MANY GEMS HAVE THAT PROPERTIES.
AFTER THE CALCULATION, ALL YOUR CREATURES CAST, AND CAST, OVER AND OVER, IF GEMS ARE NOT ATTACK SPELLS, YOU CAN SEE 30 MINUTES CASTING SHOW.
IF GEMS ARE 'DAMAGE ALL ENEMIES' TYPE, ARE YOU SURE? IT WILL BE END SOON?
NO. IF SOME ENEMIES CAN REVIVE, YOUR CREATURES JUST CAST ON EMPTY PLACE OVER AND OVER. AND THEY SUDDENLY REVIVE? CAST OVER AND OVER AGAIN.(Due to 'Cast on kill', it makes more battle longer.)
Sorry for upper case. It was really happened to me. I saw 5mins stop for calculation and 30minutes casts at one battle with turbo mode.
I don't know why I did close the game.

And, Sure. Imler, Imling Enemies group with Diamond fu*king Imling, they copies all gems.
sure. at least 1min calculation.
sure. they cast all fu&king spells at start of the battle.
of course. after long meaningless casts, you died.


BONUS STAGE 2
The Spell gem.
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Glory : Each of the caster's other Spell Gems have a 25% chance to be cast for 0 Mana.
Glory says, 'other spell gems.'
right. other spell. but it triggers itself too.
cast glory with multicast buff, game stops a while. for calculation.
and then, cast glory itself, cast glory itself, cast, cast over and over.
F(*K THIS.


Conclusion.
I know, thylacine studios works hard to siralim3 or whatever. there's no reason for update for siralim2 now.
but It ruined this game.
I'm not sure how did played you guys with these glitches.
I hope, it should be fixed. If this is not an abandon game.
Anyway, It was really hilarious study. I enjoyed that.
« Last Edit: April 06, 2018, 07:27:20 PM by LAPD »